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Changes between Version 21 and Version 22 of ppSub_testing_201201


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Jan 27, 2012, 3:41:54 PM (15 years ago)
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Mark Huber
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    26 = Convolution direction choice =
     26= Convolution Issues =
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     28== Convolution direction choice ==
    2729We want to avoid large deconvolution in PSF-matching image subtraction. As the image quality of the images continues to improve, always convolving the reference stack will not produce the best difference image and convolving the input image is desired. The quality of the difference image is evaluated in both directions and the better is chosen for the output (add specific details).
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    3537== Selected Test Samples ==
    3638
     39=== MD04 primary sample ===
     40
    3741Initial test for if choosing the proper direction in stack-stack diffims now using MD04. Was initially done using MD10, but we want to continue to build up test samples over other IPP codes using MD04.
    3842
     
    4044
    4145055 --> 077.V2 -- center -
    42  * http://telescopes.rc.fas.harvard.edu/ps1/alerts2011/2010-C-020101/2010-C-020101.html - AGN@0.345
     46 * http://telescopes.rc.fas.harvard.edu/ps1/alerts2011/2010-C-020101/2010-C-020101.html - AGN@0.345 (xy?)
    4347 * http://telescopes.rc.fas.harvard.edu/ps1/alerts2011/2010-D-030288/2010-D-030288.html - poor sub/var?
    4448 * http://telescopes.rc.fas.harvard.edu/ps1/alerts2011/2011-A-120103/2011-A-120103.html - alert
     
    5963(add when time.. difficult to search the new crossmatch page..)
    6064
    61 Sample for both skycells with same obsdate to look at variation of PSF center and edge (0.25 "/pixel), limited to r-band for now and a sample size that can be manually rerun with some ease.
     65Sample nightly stacks for both skycells with same obsdate to look at variation of PSF center and edge (0.25 "/pixel), limited to r-band for now and a sample size that can be manually rerun with some ease.
    6266
    6367|| '''obsdate''' || '''stack_id''' || '''FWHM_MAJ (pixel)''' || '''IQ_FW1 (pixel)''' ||
    6468|| || || || ||
    6569|| || skycell.055 || || ||
    66 || refstack.20111012 || 450933 || 5.206454 (0.6-0.8) || 4.08811 (0.3-0.4)||
     70|| refstack.20111012 || 450933 || 5.206454 (+-0.6-0.8) not the 4.5 on the MD.GR0 page.. || 4.08811 (+-0.3-0.4)||
    6771|| 20100110 || 444020 || 4.878624 || 3.891729 ||
    6872|| 20100121 || 444079 || 5.843588 || 4.574009 ||
     
    7579|| 20120115 || 622752 || 5.805826 || 4.622056 ||
    7680|| 20120121 || 646801 || 6.346761 || 5.359003 ||
    77 
     81|| (swap 20120126 for 20120115?) || 676389  || 4.443175 || 3.475093 ||
    7882|| || || || ||
    7983|| || skycell.058 || || ||
    80 || refstack.20111012 ||  ||   || ||
    81 || 20100110 || 444023 || || ||
    82 || 20100121 || 444082 || || ||
     84|| refstack.20111012 || 450936 || 4.616929  || 3.926292 ||
     85|| 20100110 || 444023 || 4.777016 || 3.687181 ||
     86|| 20100121 || 444082 || 5.567342 || 4.243489 ||
     87|| 20110129 || 444254 || 3.976701 || 3.100284 ||
     88|| 20110201 || 644879 || 5.023516 || 4.421264 ||
     89|| 20110312 || 446661 || 5.114515 || 3.701454 ||
     90|| 20110315 || 645117 || 4.58284 || 3.376984 ||
     91|| 20110423 || 446718 || 4.358292 || 3.138227 ||
     92|| 20110429 || 645477 || 6.088856 || 5.447231 ||
     93|| 20120115 || 622755 || 5.300241 || 4.337034 ||
     94|| 20120121 || 646804 || 5.627441 || 5.058287 ||
     95|| (swap 20120126 for 20120115?) || || || ||
    8396|| || || || ||
    8497
     
    87100Difficult to use past examples of wrong convolution direction since refstacks remade, so select sample to just test current choices.
    88101
    89 QUB exmples of wrong convolution choice:
     102QUB examples of wrong convolution choice:
    90103 * http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/ps1/psdb/userlist/10/
    91104 * http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/ps1/psdb/userlist/5/?sort=-followup_flag_date
     
    93106 * http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/ps1/psdb/candidate/1095456431022404400/
    94107
    95 Not all seem to be due to convolving in the wrong direction and need to identify and separate the cases/causes if can.
     108
     109Not all seem to be really due to convolving in the wrong direction and need to identify and separate the cases/causes if can. Running samples forced in both direction useful to see.
     110
     111CfA photpipe/HOTPANTs direction: using single template/reference stack so locally get keyword CONVOL00 from header except slight issue with amps. '''All are convolving the TEMPLATE only''' so also backs up the issue seems not a convolution direction issue.
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    98 CfA photpipe/HOTPANTs direction: using single template/reference stack so locally get keyword CONVOL00 from header except slight issue with amps.
    99 '''Problem has been seems all good nightly stack samples still choose a convolved the template rather than image so nothing to test. the refstacks are very good'''
     114Sample diffims with direction forced and detections marked (note both stack-refstack and stack-stack cases). The stack-stack case is the really the only way to test the convolution direction choice now unless go back to the MD04.V2 sample.
     115(easiest to use event stamps from pages, but may want image photpipe diffim..)
    100116
    101 Sample diffims with direction forced and detections marked (note both stack-refstack and stack-stack cases)
     117|| '''event (auto direction)''' || '''TARGET2 (convolved ref)''' || '''TARGET1 (convolved stk)''' || '''photpipe automatic (direction)''' || comment ||
     118|| X (TARGET2) || [[Image(test.png,300px)]] || [[Image(test.png,300px)]] || [[Image(test.png,300px)]] (TEMPLATE) || conv refstk better,  ||
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    103 || '''event (auto direction)''' || '''TARGET2 (convolved ref)''' || '''TARGET1 (convolved stk)''' || '''photpipe automatic (direction)''' ||
    104 || X (TARGET2) || [[Image(test.png,300px)]] || [[Image(test.png,300px)]] || [[Image(test.png,300px)]] (TEMPLATE) ||
    105120
    106 Photometry/detection comparison:
     121Photometry/detection comparisons:
     122
    107123
    108124
     
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    111127Need tests to verify changes will not break diffims for other surveys (MOPS etc) but do not need to worry about magic now. Not for testing if they will choose the right direction (only if using AUTO), but changes involved part of the normalization and will need to verify doesn't change flux/variance values:
    112  * simulated image set WW,WS,SS
     128 * simulated image set WW,WS,SS, SSref -- since SSref for MD04 seem to prefer convolving the deeper refstack still, will need to generate
    113129 * warp-warp diffim: MD and 3PI TTI
    114130 * warp-stack diffim: MD and LAP stack
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    116132
     133== Poor PSF-matching? ==
     134
     135Not sure yet what to classify this as other than the PSF not being matched well. Suspect similar to issue with convolved stacks in ppStack.
     136
     137== No-convolution? ==
     138
     139Reports from other surveys that diffims are poorer with images having similar PSFs, convolution isn't well matched? Is this for dual only?
     140
    117141
    118142= Monitoring =
    119143
    120 == Nightly tests of convolution direction ==
     144== Nightly tests of convolutions ==
     145
    121146Is there any conflict with the expected desired direction? Compare to CfA photpipe, detection counts.
    122  * having IQ/FWHM keywords in stack images or at least the gpc1 DB would be helpful here since are calc for the PSF matching in the diffim
     147 * having IQ/FWHM keywords in stack images or at least the gpc1 DB would be helpful here since are calculated for the PSF matching in the diffim process, doing manually here takes a good amount of time.
     148
     149Is the convolution not optimal?
    123150
    124151== HOTPANTs comparisons ==
    125 Difficult to automate and may want to force both directions for comparison. Are the diffims continuing to produce similar results.
     152Difficult to automate and may want to force both directions for comparison as well as shallower reference stacks to use. Are the diffims continuing to produce similar results.
    126153 * for select night samples should setup and run locally. still on the todo list.
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